Friday, January 29, 2016

107. Wisdom Was Present at the Creation


Proverbs 8


I, wisdom, dwell with sense, and find out knowledge of discretions. 8:12
Jehovah possessed me from the beginning of His way, before His works of old. 
I was anointed from everlasting, from the beginning, before the earth ever was. 8:22.

Scholars who accept the doctrine of the Trinity like to use these words to prove that Christ is eternal and that He has always been God.  A gimmick that is common among Trinitarians is also used here by them; they put meanings into words that are not there.  The words in Proverbs 8 are a personification of wisdom; they do not refer to any person, divine or otherwise.

If, for the sake of argument, we allow these words to refer to an actual divine person notice the contradiction between the words of scripture and the doctrine of the Trinity.

Jehovah possessed me:  The Septuagint, uses the word, ἔκτισε, "made," and so does the Syriac Version.  The Arians took the word in the sense of "created".  Based on the word, made, the Arians used the word, created to refer to Christ.  If Christ was created by Jehovah, than, obviously Christ is not equal to the Father.  Trinitarians, however, do not agree with the Arian doctrine and therefore, (in this case) they reject those two versions of the Bible.

It seems that the other translations use a word which can be translated as "made" or "possessed" and the Trinitarians opted to use the word "possessed" in place of "made".  Opposing the heresy of the Arians, the Fathers generally adopted the rendering ἐκτήσατο, possedit, "possessed;" Pulpit commentary.  The question must be asked: If Jehovah possesses Christ how is it right to say that Christ is God of very God?  Surely we can see that, in this statement, one is superior to the other and therefore "both Gods" are not equal.

I was anointed from everlasting:  If Christ is God why did He need to be anointed?  How can God be anointed and by whom would He be anointed?

At the same time that the Trinitarians were developing their theological stance, a self-centred, murderous man, named Athanasius was spearheading the Trinitarian theory.  "Perhaps it is no wonder that the theory was accepted as quickly and as widely as it was because Athanasius, a leader in the church at that time, would try to destroy those people who did not agree with his heretical, theological Trinitarian views."  

"About Athanasius, Wikipedia writes, there were allegations of defiling an altar, selling Church grain that had been meant to feed the poor for his own personal gain, and for suppressing dissent through violence and murder.  He also was accused of threatening to interfere with the supply of grains from Egypt.  If this accusation is true, his reason for doing that probably would have been to starve those Christians in Europe who did not yet agree with his theology concerning the Trinity."

"Even under the threat of persecution or death, there were some who followed Arius who insisted that God is not a trinity.  He taught that Christ is the Son of God, but not God himself.  Based on the teaching of the New Testament it seems obvious that Arius and his followers were on the right path and the church took a wrong turn way back in the fourth century.  Sir Isaac Newton expressed that same thought in these words, Christianity went astray in the 4th century AD, when the Council of Nicaea propounded erroneous doctrines of the nature of Christ."


"About Eusebius, Bishop of Caesarea, at the end of the fourth century, we find this interesting bit of history. Before the meeting of the council, he had intervened on behalf of Arius, and had remonstrated with Alexander ... for deposing him (Arius). By the more vehement enemies of Arianism he (Eusebius) was regarded with great distrust. When the creed of Caesarea had been modified ... (to include the words stating that the Son was) “of the substance of the Father,” “begotten not made” ... Eusebius hesitated whether he should subscribe it. He did not like the new terms; ... But after a day’s consideration he signed with the rest, and in a letter to the people of Caesarea he explained that, “though he would resist to the last any vital change in the traditional creed of his Church, he had nevertheless subscribed to these alterations, when assured of their innocence, to avoid appearing contentious.  So the creed which changed Christ from being the “Son of God” to being equal with God, happened, in part, because one leader in the church did not have the backbone to stand up for what he believed to be right!" The last four quotations were copied from 

http://wwwthinkagai.blogspot.com/2012/06/the-rise-of-belief-in-trinity.html

If you are looking for the truth you must do your own studying - don't simply believe what you hear in church.


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